MBTI Type: ISTJ

Freud is a great deal more grounded than Jung, who finds him tedious after a fashion because so much of his “iron-clad views” (unchanging beliefs) come from “his personal experiences.” Unlike Jung, he thinks that mysticism, kismet, and other “weird” things have no business in psychoanalysis. He sees Jung as being divided, idealistic, and naïve in how he chases after so many different ideas in an attempt to develop them into an over-reaching viewpoint; he firmly believes that most symptoms come back to either human sexuality or other set definitions of psychology, and is teaching his methodology to others in the hopes that they will carry it forward into psychoanalysis (Te loves to impart its knowledge in a useful way – so it figures out how to educate others so they can duplicate the results, especially when paired with Si, which has great faith in past precedent). Though curious about Jung, Freud has great difficulty imagining anything outside of his own experience—he remarks, in interpreting Jung’s dreams, that he may fear impregnating his wife and having children will impede his career, and “from my own experience, that is certainly the case.” He’s shocked to learn that Jung has a rich wife and need never worry about feeding any of his kids, since they will always be provided for, whatever he does. He is more interested in facts and what can be proven, and rolls his proverbial eyes at Jung’s insistence that he can ‘predict’ what is going to happen next; to Freud, everything has a rational explanation (this is not magic or mysticism, it’s the bookshelf creaking). He also has much firmer moral view than Jung, stemming from his professionalism and his sense of “doctor-patient” emotional distance (do not get involved, avoid taking advantage of projection on the patient’s part, and never, ever in a million years bed one of your patients!). His struggle to accept any ideas outside his own purview or to see the potential in Jung’s theories shows his inferior Ne.

Enneagram: 5w6 so/sx

Social-sexual 5s like to attract and hook people through their distinct personal flavor and strange ideas—and you can argue that changing psychoanalysis by insisting that everything stems from a sexual purpose is decidedly… unique. Freud remains distant and studied, has curious notions about everything (a lot of 5s pride themselves on their original, oftentimes offbeat thinking), and doesn’t like to become emotionally attached or involved. He believes in staying objective about your patients and not allowing them to suck you into their delusions. He is confident enough in his logical assumptions to assert his opinions forcefully—but he also has a 6 wing in that he seems to surround himself with students who agree with his thinking and validate it rather than contradicting it. He doesn’t like Jung challenging him or questioning the strength of his insights. This stems from a 6’s need and desire to interact with “like-minded” individuals, to create a safe environment for themselves. He also, despite being a thinker, shows a great deal more Social instinct than Jung, in his awareness of what is and what isn’t appropriate at the dinner table (he takes a gentle poke at Jung, who is loading up his plate and jabbering about sexual things, in front of Freud’s wife and six children – all of whom need fed dinner from that same platter).

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